Do you think Spire will play a role in making the EP?
“For sure. I send all my demos to Marshall Vore [Ryan Adams, Phoebe Bridgers], who's been producing my stuff. And oftentimes I have to go into my garage, lock the door, get Logic up, all that. Or I send him a not-as-great phone demo. With Spire, I can be anywhere and record things—even guitar and vocal together—and I'm going to get a better sounding thing than just my phone. I don't have to do the whole trip to the garage studio and all that.”
Do you produce music as well, or mainly write and record songs?
“Before I went into the studio in 2015 to make a record, everything I had done was self produced at home. You can still scroll through the early days of the music on SoundCloud. I'm bummed that I don't do it as much here at school, but before that I did a lot of my own producing.
“I learned how to use Logic over those years, and I took a film scoring class my senior year, which really helped me as well. So pretty much everything I did before I went into the studio and got some help from the guys in there, I just did myself. I have MIDI keyboards at home and lot of Mellotron plug-ins and all that fun stuff. I'm definitely looking forward to the summer because I want to try to produce more. It was really nice to go into the studio in my house and just work on something for a day that wasn't songwriting.
“But at the same time, it's been really fun getting to work with someone like Marshall at his studio. It's an easy process for me because I've written the song—and I do have a lot of say in the instrumentation—but to just have somebody else listening to it and say, ‘Here's what I think.’ He's come up with stuff I would have never have thought of, but at the same time I've suggested things that he wouldn't. So it's this good match.”
What’s one tip for using Spire Studio?
“This hasn't been an issue for me, but make sure to plan what you're putting on each track because it's eight tracks. I think I ran into that once where I was adding, I think it was the first song I was doing, and I wanted to add an, "Ooh," in just one section, and I wanted to harmonize it, and then I wanted to harmonize it again, and all of a sudden I'd used all the tracks, when I could've put several things on one. So, that's the only thing I'd say.
“Eight tracks is enough, as long as you plan. So many incredible albums are made on eight tracks.”